Faiceu: Na sinah biaruah rat kan duhnak hi a sau ngai cang. Atu lawngah kan phan kho. Caan na kan pek caah kan i lawm.
Salai Elaisa: Acan arem thiam lo ruangah a si. Interview ka postpones lengmang mi aruahzia rak ka thiam ko u. Cun, zei ka chim hlanah thil fianter duhmi pakhat ka ngei. Atu keimah hi UNHCR, UNV asiloah community/organization pakhatkhat maw represent mi ka si lo. Hika kabia vialte keimah pumpak hmuhnak le ruahnak a si timi kha fiangter hmasa ka duh.
Faiceu: Na chuahnak khua, na sianginn kainak le na riantuannak pawl na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Mararam Aru khua ah ka chuak. Bachelor of Divinity (BD) - India, DU [Delhi University] Bachelor of Commerce (honours) 2nd Year ka kai lio TOEFL ka phi i, the U.S. Department of State Scholarship in Indiana University Bloomington, USA ah sianginn ka peh than. Bachelor of Science in Informatics and Business cognate cu 2006 ah tlamtling tein ka dih. Atu ka riantuan lio mi cu IUNV a si.
Faiceu: IUNV cu zeidah a si. Adang na cawlcanghnak tete na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: IUNV cu an International United Nations Volunteer specialist ti a si UN tang aum mi si. Chin siangngakchia pakhat dirhmun in a luanciami kum 13 chung cawlcanghnak (volunteer activities) tete chim a si ahcun, atam ngai. Kaa chingchiah khawh tawk in ka chim ko lai mu. India ka um lio Seminary ah Student Secretary, Chin Student Union (CSU) Secretary, Kawlram tlangcung miphun hna nih rak dirhmi United Nationalities Democratic Congress (UNDC) ah Executive Member, the All Burmese Resource Center (ABRC) ah Secretary, le Joint Action Committee (JAC) ah Executive Member hna ka rak tuan. USA ka phanh hnu Burmese Student Association at IUB ah Secretary, 1990 Kawlram General Election ah parliament seat pakhat a rak hmu ve mi Mara Peoples Party (MPP) he Secretary of Foreign Affairs and Repetitive to North America, Chin Student Union of North America (CSUNA) dirhkhawh nakding caah Convenor, Chin National Council (CNC) Foreign Affairs Committee Member, le Chinland Guardian ah assistant Editor ka tuan ve. Chinland ah Mautam pammi hna caah 2007 thawk in atu tiang Volunteer Advocate dirhmun in ka tuan cuahmah.
Faiceu: Chin mino pakhat dirhmun in na cacawnnak le na cawlcangh ning uar na um tuk. Organization pakhat cio ah nan riantuanmi tampi theih kan duh ko nain, Malaysia focused in bia hal kan duh. UNHCR ah IUNV rian he pehtlai in hal hmasa kan duh. IUNV cu zeidah a si? Zeidah na tuan bik cem? Cun zei ruangah dah Chin miphun Malaysia kan rak zam? Refugee kan si taktak maw? timi hna na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Biahalnak tha tuk na ka hal. Abikin Chin ralzam hna kong mu. Kan riantuanmi hi the United Nations Volunteer Program Headquarters Germany Bonn chungah a si i, an International United Nations Volunteer Specialist tiah an auh. Hika ka Assignment Station UNHCR, KL, Malaysia ah hin cun holhlet, calet, le cun Office nih aherh an ti ning paoh in ka bawmh ko hna. Research, Advise tbt aherh ning kan tuah. Chin miphun kan zatein 100 ah 100% Refugee qualified kan si. Cucaah, Malaysia tbt ah kan rak zam cu a si.
Faiceu: Zeiruangah Chin miphun cu 100 ah 100% Refugee qualified kan si, tiah na chim khawh?
Salai Elaisa: International Law and Refugee Law ning in Ralzam (Refugee) timi cu:
1) Miphun ruangah maw;
2) Biaknak ruangah maw;
3) Politic ruahnak ruangah maw;
4) Buu pakhat-khat ah chungtel si ruangah maw; le
5) Chuahkehnak (Race) ruangah maw;
hi hna pakhatkhat ruangah harnak maw, hremnak maw, hnahnawhnak maw atongmi (or) atuar dingmi na si ahcun Refugee na si.
Faiceu: Asiah Chin miphun hna cu cubantuk criteria ah kan lut dih tinak a si maw?
Salai Elaisa: Kan lut kho dih ko. Zeicatiahcun, Kawlralkap nih (1) Force Porter an kan phawrhter, (2) Tlangrian (forced labor) an kan tuanter, cupinah (3) Unwarranted Tax tiah kan auhmi Ar, Vok, Facang, Caw tbk eiawk duh zong duh lo zong ah forced in an kan thawhter. Cucu zeidang ruangah si loin "Chin Miphun - Miphun dang" le "Khrihfa, Biaknak dang" kan si ruangah a si. CNF/CNA na si tiah puh ruangah maw, Nainganzi ruahnak (political opinion) ruangah maw, phun dangdang in tuar a tongmi zong kan um rih. Atu langhtermi "Biaknak" ruangah le "Miphun dang" si ruangah timi criteria pahnih (2) ah pakhatkhat nih hin Chin miphun cu Refugee zakhat ah zakhat a si ter ko. Cucaah, Chin miphun kan zatein 100 ah 100% Refugee kan si hna.
Faiceu: Chin miphun hna cu eiawk an ngei lo, an harsa caah ramleng an phan an timi ahman lo tinak a si hnga cu?
Salai Elaisa: Chin Refugees hna cu eiawk ngeih lo hartuk ruangah pemmi (Economic Migrant) kan si lo. Biaknak le Miphun ruangah atuarmi kan si ruangtu ah Refugee kan si timi hi Malaysia lawng siloin India, cun ramthumnak Australia, Norway, Denmark, Canada, USA etc ah aphan cangmi Chin miphun hna vialte nih kan i fianding a herh. Cucu kan Chin miphun le kan ton liomi kan dirhmun caah abiapi tuk hringhran ko rua, tiah ka ruah.
Faiceu: Na tuannak ah zeihidah a har bik na ti?
Salai Elaisa: Kan Chin miphun Malaysia a rak phanmi ralzam vialte himnak “Immediate Protection” pekcolh ding aherh ko, tiah thinlung nih atheih zat in kan duhning in rian kan tuan kho lo, aa tuan thiam lomi khi ahar tuk.
Faiceu: Cu na harnak cu zeitindah tei na zuam?
Salai Elaisa: Protection thami te an hmuhkhawh nakding caah kan tuah khawkmi lam in kan tang ko.
Faiceu: Zeihbantuk lam pawl dah an si?
Salai Elaisa: Confidential deuh a si caah ka chim kho lo. Aruah zia ka thiam ko u.
Faiceu: Um, Chinmi nih Immigration interview an phit tikah zei zawnte dah an chambau bik tiah na ruah?
Salai Elaisa: Zei ruangah dah Refugee kan si timi an thei lo, an i fian lomi hi a si.
Faiceu: UNHCR le Chin community riantuantinak kong ah zeitindah na hmuh? Tahchunnak ah an riantuantinak hi a mak lo tuk na ti maw siloah a mak tuk ko/hma a kal tuk ko tiah na ruat maw ti bia.
Salai Elaisa: Kaphnih lei in chambaunak (limitations) aum bantukin thatnak an tuahmi atam tuk ve ko.
Faiceu: UNHCR lei in achambaubik mi zeihdah a si?
Salai Elaisa: Kan Chin Community sining taktak (our reality) hi Malaysia ah aummi UNHCR zung nih a luancia mi caan hrawng khan an rak kan thei tuk rua lo, tiah ruahkhawh a si. UNHCR ah riantuan ka thawk kum 2007 ah Officers hna nih bia an ka halbik tawnmi cu: “Why you Chins are like this” timi hi a si. Chin groups ah kan min a tam, kan holh a tam timi khi a buaipi ngaingai mi an lo. Kan sining an rak digest kho rih rua lo.
Faiceu: Cutikah, zeiti an tuah/tuanti ah dah hma a kal deuh lai tiah na ruah?
Salai Elaisa: Cutikah, kan timi cu: “We Chin are as we are. This office and we all must recognize our reality. Therefore, it is not a question of 憌hy’ such as this question, but it is a question of 慼ow’,” tiah kan leh tawn hna. Kan sining kha kan sining bantuk tein kan zoh thiam, kan hmuh thiam, kan theih thiam ahau i, kan i fian hnu ah, kan sining taktak dirhmun taktak “zeitindah” kan tuah ah atha bik timi aphi “solution” kan kawl a hau. A fawinak in chim a si ahcun, Chin miphun cu “plural society” kan si. “We Chin are amazingly diverse in our society formation and structure. That means we are unique. Therefore, we must deal with it uniquely” tiah kan rak ti tawn. Atu an kan theih deuh ngai cang, tiah ka ruah. Community he zeitin deal ah dah athabik lai timi zong an theih ngai cang ko, tiah ka ruah.
Faiceu: Chin Community nih an chambaubik mi pawl zeidah a si, na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Chin Community Committees hna zong nih an tuah khawhmi le an thathnemnak tampi a um bantukin tha deuh in tuah khawh ding tampi a um ve. A pakhatnak ah capacity le Technical resource angei lo. A pahnihnak ah, transparency and accountability zong atlawmtuk. Cucaah, UNHCR zong nih Chin miphin hi an kan zum ti lo.
Faicei: Zei ruagah dah Chin Community cu hitihin kan si ko nga? Thatnak lei in tuah khawhnak lampi tuah ah atha na timi te na kan chim kho rih hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Ahmasabik fianter ka duhmi cu leaders an that lo ruangah a si lo. Zeitindah thatdeuhnak lampi kan zulh khawh lai, timi Innovative Ideas le Creative Thinking kan rak ngeih lo ruangah a si bik tiah kei cu ka hmuh ning a si.
Faiceu: Cucu zeidah na chim duh bik? Kan khuakhan thiam lo ruangah a si na ti duhnak a si maw? Cu ti asiah zeibantuk in dah i hrawm ah atha na ti?
Salai Elaisa: Kan Chin Community tha tein observe atuahmi le a study mi nih cun an ngeihmi System and Structure ruangah a si bik, tiah an theih cio ko lai dah. Cucaah, aho paoh nih aduh ning in manipulate tuahkhawh lomi System and Structure thar achuak cang ko tiah chim khawh a si. System thar achuah hnuah UNHCR nih Chin Community sinah service an pek (deliver) ning atha deuh ngai cang.
Faiceu: Cucu ACR/CRC le Chin community vialte nih an duh deuhmi a si lai tiah na ruat maw?
Salai Elaisa: An duh tuk ko tiah ka ruah. Zeicatiahcun, atu system hi Monopoly System a si tilai lo i, democratic le organizational principle taktak in Team Work, Cooperation, Colaboration etc based mi “fairness and equality” adikbakmi “guarantee” apek mi si rua tiah ka ruah. Hopaoh nih Egual opportunity aduhmi kan si bantukin Refugee aho paoh, Chin group ngan deuh mi, athawng deuhmi, a fa deuhmi, ader deuh mi etc vialte nih a hmuh awkte anhmuh ding kha a biapi ngaingai.
Faiceu: Community fe deuhmi pawl achuah hi Chin Unity a hrawktu a si tiah a ruatmi an um. Nangtah zeintindah na ruah?
Salai Elaisa: Kei cu ka ruat lo. “Unity in Spirit, Diversity in Operation” timi kan theihpeng dingah duhsak ngai a si.
Faiceu: Community lei in zeipawldah an tuah lai i hma a kal lai tiah na zumh?
Salai Elaisa: Community Committees le leaders vialte nih UNHCR he biatak tein “cooperate” an tuah khawh a biapi tuk hringhran lai. Ahnubik thil akal ning bantuk in akal i pehzulh khawh a si ahcun, UNHCR le Community riantuantinak ah atha chin lengmang ko lai tiah ruahnak ka ngei.
Faiceu: Kawlram 2010 election hnu zongah Malaysia UNHCR nih hin Chin ralzam hna a cohlan peng ko hna lai tiah na ruat maw?
Salai Elaisa: Kawl Ralkap cozah State Peace and Development Council (SPDC) nih timhlamhnak a ngeih lio mi Kawlram 2010 election hi Kawlram caah Democracy based on Federalism a chuahpi taktak lai maw, tiah kan tuak ah atha deuh hnga. Cun, Kawlram buainak hi Uknak system e.g. Democracy vs. Military Regime ruang lawng siloin “Ethnic Conflicts” ruang zongah a si bik timi zong philhawk a tha lo. Tette pakhat ah, U Nu chan lioah khan Democracy Parliament System kan rak hmang ko nain, ethnic conflicts a um ko. Cucaah Karen National Union (KNU) arak um. Khabantuk in kan tuak tikah na halmi hi afiang ko rua, tiah ka ruah.
Faiceu: Malaysia um UN register a ngah rih lomi Chin ralzam hna nih zeitin in khua an khan ah dah UN register an ngah khawh bik hnga? Cun UN register a ngahcia mi hna nih zeipawldah timhtuahnak a ngeih a herh bik tiah na ruahmi rak kan chim kho law kan i lawm ko hnga.
Salai Elaisa: UNHCR le Community leaders hna bia ngaih le zulh khawh atha bik.
Faiceu: Chin ralzam hna caah abiapi tukmi lobby a tuah ti thawng kan theih. Zeibantuk phun lobby dah na tuah timi kong le khoika ram hna ah dah na va tuah timi rak kan chim kho law kan duh ko.
Salai Elaisa: Chin miphun le ralzam hna caah kan riantuan mi tete cu a um pah len ko. Kum 2007 le 2008 hrawng kan tuah mi pawl tu hi serious isuess tete pawl a tel deuh.
Faiceu: Zeibantuk issue deuh pawl le zeibantuk phun in tuah dah a si na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Tampi lak ah mipi zong nih kan theih aherh rua tiah ka ruahmi cu La-Wa-Ka tiah kan theih tawnmi U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) nih Kum 2007 donghnak lei le Kum 2008 thawk hrawng Malaysia a um mi Chin ralzam hna tamlak tein denied an rak kan tuah. Tamtuk reject kan tong kha mu. Credibility Reason deuh arak si. Zeidah cucu a chim duh tiah cun, Chin pawl nan Refugee Halning (refugee claim) kan zum hna lo. Refugee nan si lo, ti a si ko. Chin ralzam hna cu P2 category ah chiah kan si caah Miphun piin kan mualpho sual lai maw, tiah kan rak phang ngaingai. Kan miphun caah serious issue a si bantukin Immediate action lak ahau tiah ruah arak si caah March-May 2008 ah US cozah Department of State he Washington DC ah ton a rak si.
Faiceu: Zeidah nan i ceih bik?
Salai Elaisa: Kan biatlangpi cu: Chin Miphun cu 100 ah 100% Refugee kan si. Kan Refugee halmi hi rak kan reject hlah u. Nanmah kilvennak (protection) kan herh ko. Resettlement zong tam deuh le rang deuh in ka tuah piak ko u, tiah kan nawl hna.
Faiceu: Nan lih hrawkhrol an kan ti tung ahcun ankan zum kho ti lai maw?
Salai Elaisa: “Chin miphun nih Kawl Ralkap Porter aphawr ballomi kan um lo; Tlangrian atuan ballomi kan um lo; Phaisa, Facang, Ar, Vok, Caw etc a pe ballomi kan um lo. Miphun dang Chin miphun le Khrihfa kan si ruangah hitihin Kawlralkap nih an kan sarhsat. An kan tuarter. Cuvebantukin, Chin miphun cu cathiam kan si lo; American culture theimi kan si lo; Kan ton liomi harnak, Kawlralkap nih an kan tuahser ning zong kan langhter thiam lo. Kanmah le kanmah kong, kan sining hmanh a chimthiam le a relthiam mi kan si lo; tuzing zeidah na meh ti hmanh a dik in a chim thiam lomi Miphun kan si rih. Kan Refugee halning hi kan lih le hrawkhrol bia a si lo. Faktuk deuh in La-Wa-Ka nih interview an tuah caah a sungmi kan si. Refugee kan si ko. Interview hi anem deuh in ka tuah ko u, arang deuh le tam deuh kan la ko u,” tiah kan ti hna i a tlamtling ko. Zeicahtiahcun, kan ton taktak mi kan si ning taktak a si caah a si.
Faiceu: Cuti asiah, cu lobby cu abiapi tuk hringhran tinak a si hnga cu. Cu lobby hnu ah US acozah nih Chin ralzam hna an kan cohlang ti maw?
Salai Elaisa: Malaysia Chin Refugee le USA aphan cangmi Chin Refugee tampi nih an theih deuh lai. Zeicatiah interview atuahmi le appeal atuahmi an si caah a si. Chin Refugee hna kan “Refugee Halning” cu 2008 in “Turning Point” a si tiah kan Chin History ah tial usilaw kan palh men lai lo dah.
Faiceu: Zeicadah “Turning Point” tiah kan ti khawh lai. Refugee cu kan si peng ko lo maw?
Salai Elaisa: Refugee kan rak si peng ko nain, kan sining kan i theih lo caah a halning (refugee claim) kan rak thiam lo. Rambo Adventure case kan tuanh tawnmi kha arak herh ti lo. USA nih a interest mi zong a si lo. Ahmanmi, thil kan ton taktak mi Porter Voikhat te ka phawrh ruangah ka rak tli tbk in Refugee cu ngah khawh a si cang.
Faiceu: By the way, atu ah khan P2 category a si caah Chin miphun hna caah abiapi tuk tiah na chimmi ka theih. Zeidah a si timi fiang deuh na ka chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: US acozah nih Refugee hna Resettlement atuah tikah a hmanmi Category a si. Category P1, P2, P3 tiah pathum in then a si. “P” timi cu Priority tinak a si. Cucaah Priority1, Priority2, le Priority3 tiah chim khawh a si hnga. P1 hi UNHCR nih US cozah ah “individual case basis” in referral atuahpiak mi hna an si. P3 hi Family Re-unification category ah an hman. P2 hi adang deuh. US acozah Department of State bak nih hi hna miphun hi cu “Special Humanitarian Concern” a si tiah category a pekmi an si. The U.S. Department of State lawnglawng nih cun Category cu miphun pakhatkhat peknak (assign) nawl a ngei. Cu chung cun Chin miphun kan i tel.
Faiceu: Chin miphunpi cu USA acozah nih special miphin in an kan cohlan tinak a si cu?
Salai Elaisa: “Humanitarian Concern” kan ti tikah an State Dept policy cover ding khi a si deuh. Miphun pakhat an interest mi kha P2 an pek ko hna. P2 hi “Group Processing” ti zong in theih a si ve. Zeicatiahcun, miphun pakhat ahlei (aathu) special in tuahpiak mi thil a si caah a si. Kapkhatlei in theih aherhmi le i ralrin aherhmi cu: individual case in tuahpiak mi P1 case ah cun a lih le a hrawkhrol hmanh ah amah pumpak case lawnglawng a effect lai. Sihmanhsehlaw, P2 kalning cu minung zeizatmaw kan lih hrawkhrol ahcun kanzapi huap in kan Chin miphunpi caah processing a effect khawh. Aa rawk kho. Hi effect hi kaphnih a kal kho rih. Resettlement Process DHS nih information le data a lak cuahmah mi hi USA ah resettled ciami kan zate a effect khawh bantukin USA ah Chin Refugee hna kan thutning kan dirhmun Annual Survey le Report nih Resettlement Process affect khawh ve.
Faiceu: Cucu phan a um ko tung. Chin miphin kan mualpho sual lo nakding caah zeibantuk in dah awareness le action lak ah a that tiah na ruah?
Salai Elaisa: Hi kong he pehtlai in USA ah Chin Churches le Community cheukhat zong ah biatak tein rak chim le rak i ceih bak a si cang. Chin Churches, Chin Communities, CSUNA, CYO etc hna vialte nih hmalaknak an ngeih cio dingmi, kan i ralrin taktak a haumi thil a si, tiah ka ruah.
Faiceu: Tuanah khan zeiruangahdah Chin miphun hna hi ralzam kan si i ramleng kan chuah timi na kan chimh cang. Ramleng kan phanh khawhmi, refugee kan hmuh khawhmi hi cheukhat nih cun amah ruangah tiah mi pumpak maw organization pakhatkhat maw tuahsernak ruang bak a si tiin an dirpi. Nang na hmuh ningah tah aho ruangah dah a si tiah na ruah na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Kan zatein tanti tuanti "joint effort" thawng in a si bik ko. Riantuantu tiah Chin organizations, Chin miphun a kan dawtu international organizations, acozah le pumpak tampi an i tel ko lai. Cucaah, minung pumpak pakhat ruangah maw, organization pakhat ruangah tiah chim a tha rua lo.
Faiceu: Atu IUNV rian naa dinh in USA na phanh than hnu ahtah Chin ralzam hna caah Lobby na tuahmi dang a um ti maw? Aum ahcun zeibantuk pawl dah a si? Chin miphun hawi hna nih an theih aherh mi, theih awk atha tiah na ruahmi a um ahcun rak kan chim kho ve law kan i lawm tuk ko hnga.
Salai Elaisa: Kan chimh khawh ko. Chimawk thalo confidential deuh in ruahmi tu cu kan langter lem lai lo i, aruahzia ka thiam ko u. Kan hnu thla [June] chungah US cozah kan nawl than hna. Chin Refugee issue hi “comprehensive approach” in aphi kan kawl piak ko u, tiah. Ramchung le Ramleng voikhat ah apahnih in piatana phisin ding kan bawm ko u tiah kan ti.
Faiceu: Ramchung le Ramleng na ti i zeidah Ramchung ah kan bawm hna seh ti le, zeidah Ramleng ah ka bawm hna seh tiah, na dumi cu a si, tlingdeuh le fiang deuh in na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: A pakhatnak ah, ramdang azam cangmi Chin Refugee hna hi International Protection tha deuh kan herh. Abikin, US acozah zohkhenh kan herh. Malaysia le India ah tuanreltu organizations hna nih arang deuh, kau deuh le tha deuh in Chin ralzam hna an (protect) zohkhenh khawh nakding caah abipi bikmi Tangka tam deuh pe ko u. Resettlement Program rang deuh le tam deuh kan tuah piak ko u, tiah kan nawl.
Apahninak ah, zeiruangahdah Chin miphun kanram in kan zam timi “root cause and origination” zong aphi nan kan kawlpi ahau ko, tiah kan nawl hna. Kawlram ah political change a um khawh nakding caah kan i bochan peng ko. Political change le national reconciliation cu ultimate solutions a si. Cu dirhmun kan phanh khawh rih lo hmanhah a zeimawzat Chin Refugee exodus hi phisin khawh a si.
Faiceu: Zeihtindah phisin khawh a si lai tiah na ruah?
Salai Elaisa: Kanram in kan khuasakning khi a that deuh a hau. Motor lampi kan ngeih a hau. Motor lampi a um lo ruangah Kawralkap caah porter phawrh a si. Media le Technology athat lo ruangah Kawlralkap nih minung covo (human rights) a hrawhmi khi kan tuar khun. Vawlei cung theihlo in thil cangmi human right violations tampi a um. Kum 2006 in Mautam kan pam i eiding kan ngei lo. Kawlralkap nih eiding an kan pek lo lawng siloin, pek an kan timhmi pawl hmanh a kham rih hna. Cucu, “Food as Weapons of War against Ethnic Chins” a si. Kanram ah um thiam, khuasak thiam, nung thiam lo ding in an kan tuah. Burmanization and Ethnic Cleasing policy ning tein antuahmi a si. Hiti kan si ah cun Chin miphun cu kan dih taktak ko lai. Kan ram in kan zam dih ahau. Cucaah, kan zoh sawhsawh hlah u law, nanmah bawmhnak, nanmah protection kan herh ko. Community Development kan herh tiah, kan nawl hna.
Faiceu: Hmaileiah zei riantuan dah na timh?
Salai Elaisa: Scholar si ka duh.
Faiceu: Na interest mi zeidah a si, na kan chim kho hnga maw?
Salai Elaisa: Ka interest mi cu Democratization, Human Rights, Conflict Resolution, State Construction, le Development a si. Abikin kan Chinland le Kawlram caah mu.
Faiceu: Interview kan in tuahmi na kan leh caah kan i lawm. Na sianginn kainak kong he Interview dang tuah kan duh rih ko. An hakkau tiah cun kan ti sawh hlah mu.
Salai Elaisa: You are most welcome a si ko.
( Salai Elaisa Vahnie he itonnak hi Faiceu Journal, No. 1, Vol. 26 le Vol.27 ah chuahmi a si)
